Thames Ironworks 4:14 Tue Apr 7
Fielding a young team?
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Would any of you lot have accepted a defeat if Sam played a couple of the young players at Leicester?
Personally I would accept a loss trialling our young stars over has been players like CFC and Nolan.
We really don't give any players a chance at this club.
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whufcroe
11:48 Thu Apr 9
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"And instead of Demel AND O'Brien I would replace one with Burke or Oxford."
haha
People would risk destroying a young centre back by playing them out of position.
Mental
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whufcroe
11:45 Thu Apr 9
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Cheezey Bell-End 11:43 Thu Apr 9
There is a big difference between what he did then and what others are suggesting he does to be honest.
However considering the only "youth" anywhere near ready for the first team is a centre back and we played 2 first choice centre backs Saturday, this thread is really a load of old bollocks.
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Cheezey Bell-End
11:43 Thu Apr 9
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He fielded a young team in the cup against Forest last year and has never been forgiven for it..
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whufcroe
11:43 Thu Apr 9
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"BFS has seemingly given up with Poyet now too."
Is this the same Poyet that BFS said he wasn't for this season, he was for the future when buying him?
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whufcroe
11:41 Thu Apr 9
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Thames Ironworks 9:17 Wed Apr 8
So what you're actually suggesting unlike our 19 rivals, we should actually have a squad and use players who are either too young or not good enough.
I reckon you could be a manager
On the computer
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Thames Ironworks
9:17 Wed Apr 8
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There are players here creaming the money who will not get game time. Cole, Demel, O'Brien, Jarvis should just rot in the background and allow the youth players the time on the bench to fill the gaps.
Also we cannot use the Forest game as an excuse, that was just pathetic on Sam's part proving he has no value for the cup. Putting pressure on young players to get us a cup run was pathetic. At the moment we are in the pre, we will stay and we will now look to next season, therefore no pressure.
We fight hard to keep players under contract here, Oxford, Burke, Borg etc, why bother if they will not get games.
Sam doesn't bother with youth, he wants money and and without it will blame anyone else but him.
I seriously want him gone.
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Dr Matt
9:10 Wed Apr 8
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Will Jussi, Demel, Nene, Jarvis or Cole be at West Ham next year? Very unlikely. As such they should be nowhere near the match day squad.
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Eddie B
2:01 Wed Apr 8
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BFS has seemingly given up with Poyet now too. Fucking hell, I hope he fucks off at the end of the season.
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stirlinghammer
10:27 Tue Apr 7
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Yes, since Sam gave up in December, as a club we would have been better off with only kids playing and replacing the likes of Demel, jussi and jobrien,
Even the tea lady would have done better than Nolan.
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HairyHammer
10:24 Tue Apr 7
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I agree the young need some decent match time playing against the lesser teams (Yea I am laughing too) But Big Sam just does not wet young heads.
I have hated Allardyce for the way he will regardless of lack of fire in bellies or terrible form still pick the same few old tired and useless players.
Would I accept a defeat well I have been swallowing them regardless so, Yes I would .
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Pop Pop Robson
9:55 Tue Apr 7
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Spot on or church the fat man hates young players or anyone with flair nolan/Cole/Jarvis/o'brien/demel nowhere good enough bfs will be the ruin of us.
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Sarah Ballpalsy
9:34 Tue Apr 7
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isolated hammer 6:28 Tue Apr 7
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Exactly my point
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crapnotshit
7:53 Tue Apr 7
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IF a couple of youngsters was picked against Leicester, they would most def have boosted the squad compared to Nolan and Cole.
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ornchurch ammer
7:37 Tue Apr 7
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I think the vast majority would have accepted Poyet in midfield and Lee up front alongside Sakho on Saturday. ( I know that Lee is out on loan).
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Takashi Miike
7:07 Tue Apr 7
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you're confusing 'we' with a fat fish munching cunt
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isolated hammer
6:28 Tue Apr 7
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Sarah, the team against Forest was quite different to having a couple of changes in order to give players first team experience.
I remember watching Joe Cole give Roy Keane the complete run around at UP, shortly before his departure to Chelsea. Never saw Cole play the same again after that.
You have to blood them at some point, so subtle changes to the line-ups shouldn't be too detrimental!
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Sarah Ballpalsy
6:03 Tue Apr 7
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No I wouldnt accept it.
Playing a young team just for the sake of it helps nobody and as we saw in the Forest cup game it can do more harm than good.
However we should be using our early safety to blood some youngsters. Blooding youngsters of course is very different than playing a team of youngsters.
I'd replace O'Brien, Demel, Jussi, Cole, Nolan, Nene and Jarvis with youngsters and any game time the older ones would have got i'd give to youngsters.
They would be playing with the better, senior pros and could gain some excellent experience without the overall performance of the team getting worse - and likely much better
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isolated hammer
5:55 Tue Apr 7
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Managers won't take the risk? Our Manager won't take the risk, yet he will constantly play a Midfield of Nolan and Noble knowing full well that both are not the paciest in the game and both in the same team put enormous pressure on the other two midfielders.
I personally would have swallowed some of our recent defeats more pleasantly had we given youth a chance. Surely we have young CB's who could have learnt from playing in the first team and having Kouyate and Song in front of them?
But no, he didn't do this, instead, he put Kouyate in defence which enabled him to play Nolan and Noble and then we had Jarvis playing in Midfield.
We have packed our bags now for the Summer and now is the time to start bringing in some development squad players to freshen things up a bit.
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Trevor B
5:51 Tue Apr 7
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*grow
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Trevor B
5:50 Tue Apr 7
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For the simple reason that if you are going to be heading up a club that will be bringing youth in and through then surely you have to be there for several years to reap the benefits and see the players row. Now, for instance, why on earth would a manager battling for a contract extension, who may have slipped below his target for the season, be committed to taking a chance on youth if he believes that his best interests are served by trusting his senior players. An again back to the point about the targets given to a manager. As Rio rightly said, it's down to the owners to tell their manager what they want from him and to have the right man in place to delivery that.
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Alex V
5:47 Tue Apr 7
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Broadly agree Trevor B, but why does it have to be tied to contract length? Whatever the length of contract, the board could make developing youth a part of the head coach's remit. The man in charge would understand he's being evaluated not only on finishing position, but on the young players he promotes and develops.
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